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@Background Pony #8303
Not any come to mind that were just as a meme or “to prove a point”… as in no real “caught” cases afaik.

so we all know of cases of artists getting caught using AI. Do you know of cases where someone presented their work as having been done with AI but it was actually done without AI? for context back during the days when CGI was new and exciting, scenes that were made with traditional special effects were sometimes marketed as having been done with CGI

@Background Pony #F22A
I would say there is no need to make up for crappy production values with AI-generated images, since it’s trivial to make good looking, generic pictures, while it takes a bit more effort to create something even amateurish-looking with additional elements added manually. It would be more effort for (arguably) worse result.

@Background Pony #F22A
Maybe people just don’t think of using a drawing program to add text to AI images, or asking it to caption things (does it do that well?)?

I agree it does sound like a good technique/process.

same here, pressing button is way easier than typing something creative in the comments so I leave comments only when I really feel it, like something is really cute or i laugh hard

prior to ai you would see a lot of poor photoshop/bad ms paint meme things that would make up for their crappy production values with wit and charm. there is very little of that with ai (at least on here) but why is that? it should be easier with the tools that let you doodle the composition no?

Like Felagund said a lot of posted images just doesn’t stand out in any way, and it obviously hard to find a words about something that ordinary. I think images with more creative, less usual situations or stories could get more attention and more comments.

Although it might not work for images that differs from other in negative way, like poorly generated or picturing things most people doesn’t like (extreme fetishes, etc).

A big part of art communities I’ve been in is based around sharing knowledge and critiquing. I’ve not been on tabtabus too much but 95% of the stuff that pops up in new is using a slightly modified default prompt and uploaded with little to no inpainting. There is no knowledge to learn from the people uploading that because they aren’t doing anything to make their gen different. Similarly critique is pointless since they don’t edit their gens anyway so why bother providing feedback. There are only a handful of people (truekry and siber you the real MVPs from what I’ve seen so far) that actually bother to put any effort into the things they are posting. I’m not sure there are enough competent AI users to get the ball rolling on the usual art community critique and share discussions.

@Star Streaker
FYI: I’m going to start including metadata info in my upload description. Also, you can access the metadata by cutting and pasting my images to:

@Felagund
I agree that repetitiveness of images is a non-trivial problem.

I think it also comes down to the kind of people in the community. The ones who are active participants of the community tend to dislike AI, and prefer not to be in such spaces. while a lot of the AI side is made up of lurkers or people who weren’t that involved in the furry community to begin with, so they just keep not commenting like they always did.

Part of it is the idea that everything is now “content” - to be consumed, and then discarded or forgotten. There are too many people who don’t bother commenting on things, because the stuff they’re looking at is all interchangeable in their mind.

And frankly, genAI is making this worse, as the individual touch is lost unless the prompter is very particular about what and how they’re prompting.

There are some people on this site whose images I can immediately recognize, because of a consistent look/feel/theme, and an awful lot of people generating and posting Trixie butts (for example) that don’t stand out in any way from dozens of Trixie butts posted before.

_{hey, that’s one of my pics. i hope i can get my tablet working again soon.}

@Scarlet Ribbon
That makes sense.

Explicit Smolder.

@Background Pony #7DE6
AI is stuck in this dichotomy where borderline superhuman at adding non-specific detail, but it’s really bad at specific detail. Look at smaller elements of images. Depending on the art style, you’ll need to look at different things, but for most traditional anime-styled images, the most glaring issues are noticeable in hands, feet, eyes, and small accessories like jewelry.

Backgrounds are also often a dead giveaway, since AI is decent at contiguous spaces, but really bad at non-contiguous spaces. Look for dramatic shifts in the background where a character disrupts it. Smarter AI users will generate a full background first before layering a character on top of it, though, cuz it minimizes these problems.

There’s a lot more to it than just these, but those are two ways even inexperienced users should be able to see. More experienced users will know different models have a bias toward certain palettes and patterns, as well, which makes them even easier to identify. Illustrious is a very popular model, for example, but the art it produces is usually identifiable immediately just because of the linework combined with the palette, even if all the other details are sharp and ‘human-like’.

Of course, these flaws are improving on more recent models, but enough experience with them still reveals flaws.

@Thoryn
Personally, I strip my metadata because my workflows use a ton of custom stuff that people won’t have, and they’re pretty much completely unreadable to anyone that doesn’t have all my customs–and only barely readable even to me.

@Draco Dei
Sorry, I can’t speak for that site, and have no idea how their advertising works. I’ve just seen them telling people who upload AI Generated images there to come here.

@Background Pony #E516
As the objective, even when errors are involved (which they are not all the time when I post my vignettes) is turning their “bugs” into “features” it would SEEM to me someone would need to be very thin-skinned to take offense? Am I wrong about that?

@Nocturn
From what little I know about the split, the objection was mostly about the amount of yours the moderation team was having to put in to filter out very badly done AI art. If someone wanted to pay for an ad, why would they turn down the money? Do they garuntee their advertisers a certain PERCENTAGE of pages*map they can only have so many advertisers at one time?

*Mind you that might actually be a pretty morally upstanding way of preventing the problem of preventing part of the “increasoingly small slices of the same pie of user attention” that I heard contributes to the enshitification (spoilered for the official term including mild cussing) of YouTube, Facebook, etc.?

@Background Pony #CF65
The moderators there are asking people to move here if they upload any AI Generated images. But I don’t know if they would take an AI Generated advertisement.

@Star Streaker
I stand by my philosophy of sharing prompt info when people ask for it. I’ll gladly share any Text2Img info but the rest is really up to their discretion and know how. I started into Image Generation in the earlier days and info was hard to come by. and hated it so much because everyone was so obscure about their prompts and didn’t want to share anything. Not even models.

And ya im guilty of not commenting but i really just browse and upload here. But i do really appreciate the bros out there who comment on my stuff even if its just one or two words.