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General Discussion » The monkey thread » Post 15

@Cypher
If that’s the lesson you learned from your crowd, I’ve go to say that there are a bunch of toxic posers in it. In all the years that I upload AI I haven’t had these kind of complaints at all, and I unintentionally starve my followers with my content.
Aside from that and AI, for me it has always been literally impossible to predict the reaction of the crowd. One time I made a painting in 2 hours because of a deadline and the reception was so grand that it got stolen from me within a week. The other time I spent months making another painting and the general reception was ‘‘meh, don’t like it’’.
So, you can go with your own flow and attract a crowd that fits with you or you can follow a toxic crowd and spiral into an unpleasant direction.

General Discussion » The monkey thread » Post 14

I’ve understood one thing: you make quality, you’re told to get lost; you make quantity, and suddenly you’re awesome. And that’s a fact. Besides, most of my pictures are… I won’t say it, plus half of what has been provided can be deleted

General Discussion » The monkey thread » Post 13

Meta_Void

AI Whisperer
@Cypher
No they are not. You have made some of the best content that has ever graced this site. When people tell you this they are only trying to bring you down because they are jealous of your success and what you have accomplished. When you get close to success there will always be people that will try and drag you down, as if you were Icarus with his wax wings. People like this, you should not respect their opinion because they do not have your best interests in mind, only their own. Their opinion is worth the dirt under your feet. We are practically just ants bickering on a rock. Making some silly drawings with AI does not in any way invalidate you as a person.

General Discussion » The monkey thread » Post 12

Background Pony #93F7
@Cypher
I upvoted over 68% of your images (of those shown with my filters on). So no, I wouldn’t say your images are bad.

General Discussion » Post a random image from your Favorited images [A.I. Edition] » Post 91

General Discussion » The monkey thread » Post 11

General Discussion » Post a random image from your Favorited images [A.I. Edition] » Post 90

General Discussion » NSFW - memorable generation errors? » Post 15

General Discussion » NSFW - memorable generation errors? » Post 14

General Discussion » NSFW - memorable generation errors? » Post 13

Tagging Discussion » General "Whoa this tag is missing stuff!" Thread » Post 425

tyto4tme4l

Something of an artist
A compilation of my earlier entries that haven’t been done yet:
“Wallpaper” should be additionally implied by these things:
ponygen wallpapers, iphone wallpaper, phone wallpaper, wallpaper edit, wallpaper for the fearless
https://tantabus.ai/tags/wallpaper
“Close up” should be implied by these things:
close up series, extreme close-up
https://tantabus.ai/tags/close-dash-up
“Moon” should have an alias “the moon” and be additionally implied by:
blood moon, blue moon, crescent moon, mare in the moon, sleeping on moon
https://tantabus.ai/tags/moon
“Petting” should be implied by:
human on pony petting, human on zebra petting
https://tantabus.ai/tags/petting
“Bodypaint” should have aliases “body paint, body painting” and be implied by “painted on clothing”.
https://tantabus.ai/tags/bodypaint
“Laptop computer” should imply “computer”, be implied by “macbook” and have an alias “laptop”.
https://tantabus.ai/tags/laptop+computer
“Wingless” should have these aliases added:
no wings, wingless pegasus, no wing
https://tantabus.ai/tags/wingless
“Legs up” should be aliased to “legs in air”.
https://tantabus.ai/tags/legs+up
https://tantabus.ai/tags/legs+in+air
“Maid” should have these aliases added:
maid costume, maid uniform, maid dress
https://tantabus.ai/tags/maid
“Summer flare” should be removed from the implications for “cinder glow”, it’s already its alias.
https://tantabus.ai/tags/cinder+glow
“:p” should imply “tongue out” and have these aliases:
bleping, blep, blepping, =p, bleb
“Holding object” should probably be aliased to “holding”.
https://tantabus.ai/tags/holding+object
https://tantabus.ai/tags/holding

Tagging Discussion » General "Whoa this tag is missing stuff!" Thread » Post 424

Tagging Discussion » General "Whoa this tag is missing stuff!" Thread » Post 423

General Discussion » NSFW - memorable generation errors? » Post 12

Tagging Discussion » Schrodinger's/Ambiguous Characters » Post 3

Right, so keep “ambiguous character” official, “Schrodinger’s character” as an alias, and do away with “Schrodiner’s Spyro” until and unless it becomes common enough to warrant a separate tag…
About as I would have expected in hindsight.
Incidentally, I do strongly believe unique tags aren’t always bad. If something is rare, sometimes that means it is a highly memorable, and possibly THE most memorable thing about the image.

Tagging Discussion » General "Whoa this tag is missing stuff!" Thread » Post 422

Tagging Discussion » General Tag Discussion » Post 32

Background Pony #1302
@Nocturn
To me, offscreen male sounds like he’s depicted (not just implied), but mostly off-screen. This mostly means only legs or hands are depicted.
Faceless male sounds like male without a face. If we go in the direction the tag description tries to define, I guess the description should say something like “he’s mostly there, but his head is out of the frame”.

General Discussion » The monkey thread » Post 10

Tagging Discussion » General Tag Discussion » Post 31

Nocturn

Senior Moderator
Adjutant
@Background Pony #1302
Not necessarily. This site is not that site, and some of the implications and tags on that site are from more than a decade ago. And for those very oldest of all implications that came from when implications first came into existence in BooruOnRails, those implications have had time to evolve and expose a great number of “whoops, that isn’t actually useful” or even “Holy shit that was a mistake how do we fix it?” along the way.
For example, the short definition of faceless male is “a male character is partially present (physically)”, and to me that sounds more like how offscreen male is used - even though that really has become a term that means NONE of the male is onscreen, but that’s what we have implied [foo] tags for.
So … We aren’t Derpi. We inherited their tags because it would have been dumb to abandon the enormous amount of tagging that had already happened on the images we imported, and along with those imports came the whole spider web of ‘how all these tags fit together’. But, over time, we keep finding dumb tags, or dumb implementations, or flawed alaises. Many things that made sense when they were created but over time have ended up being dumb.
Maybe, just maybe, The Old Ones who created the infinite potential and chaos that was the soup from whence Derpi was birthed made mistakes that Derpi could never rectify because The Old Ones still haunted their database to such an extend that their mistakes and “Try this let’s see if it works” ended up becoming crystalized like ancient diamonds.
2LDR: Maybe we can tag intentionally and over time our tags will end up better. Sometimes tagging changes on Derpi make sense and can benefit us. But sometimes they look wrong or cause problems that we don’t want to deal with, or have dealt with in different ways. This specific set of tags? Looks wrong to me.
I would not be comfortable making those implications without a good long chatting with the tagging wonks and an even longer “let’s sleep on it”.
After all, on this site something with 8K tags is 10% of the database, and that’s a great bit old chunk of images to retroactively apply or remove tags from when an implication changes.

General Discussion » The monkey thread » Post 9

Background Pony #5C9C
I say for AI this limit should be Quality. I don’t mean is it good artistic, but it is free of errors, are the details clear and so on. Stuff you can measure, since “art” is subjective.
This approach has a potential drawback. It’s easier to generate an image without errors if it’s simple and doesn’t contain complex details, poses, composition, etc. Therefore, this may drive people to generate less interesting images.

General Discussion » Getting off to your own works. » Post 5

Nocturn

Senior Moderator
Adjutant
@Ace-Starfield
People used to go weeks or months or years between seeing things that hit their specific dopamine triggers. Maybe a scene in a show, maybe a festival that only happened once a year. Imagine that fireworks were “your thing” - you’d have to wait for a fair or holiday that featured them, or become a pyromaniac. Or go into the fireworks industry.
But now you can replay that exact scene from a show on infinite repeat. Or have a machine generate that exact set of ‘things’ that seeing punches you straight in the Ventral Tegmental Area and your Hypothalamus that gives you a direct shot of dopamine every time.
It’s like the move “Brainstorm (1983)”. Guy invents a machine that records thoughts. But it also captures memories and the complete physical experience. One of the test subjects steals the recorder and records themselves having sex.
medium
Later, the lab folks find the recording and one of the engineers steals the recording and sets it into an infinite loop of just the orgasm and plays it back at home.
He misses work for a week, his wife calls utterly panicked because she found him in their cottage looking like he was having a heart attack. So the main characters head out and they find him later in a chair, completely covered in cum (somehow edited out of this photo but in the movie he is completely drenched in sweat and other fluids), ejaculating ever few seconds, his body almost utterly wrecked.
Later in the movie, the main character visits this guy again in the hospital to try to understand why the machine he helped create works so much better than intended, and the orgasm guy is sitting in a wheel chair in the hospital.
“I’m … so much better.” He says. “You can’t understand how much more human I *HNNNNG* have become.” he says as he has another spontaneous orgams. I don’t remember the line but he basically says; “I am evolved.”
We now live in a future very much like that movie foretold. Any one of us can be that guy in the chair having an orgasm on infinite repeat.
The difference is that our bodies will hit a dopamine saturation, and you’ll need to hit a different switch to get the same high.
But - the point is - you no longer have to wait for something to randomly hit “your buttons”. You can now call up the exact moment, the exact fetish, the exact character in the exact situation doing the exact thing that causes your brain to say; “Yes. That’s the good stuff.”
Even if it’s Trixie sipping tea from a cup.
We live in that future, or a future like, what was foretold in that movie.
We can create things because they’re challenging, because they teach us things, because we are coping, because they are emotionally satisfying to do, for money, for friends, or simply because creating it punches us right smack in the *HNNNNG*.
I think most artists who draw a lot or creatives who create a lot are getting some sort of *HNNNNG* from their creation. Otherwise it’s hard to understand why humans would go through the effort of being creative. It’s not a simple amount of energy. It’s not evolutionarily beneficial. But we do it. Because *HNNNNG*.
Not all creativity is sexual. But wow have LLMs given SO MANY more people the capacity to create “that thing”, or something close enough to it. And then they can create “that thing” again and again and again and again until they are saturated and have to find another different “thing” to create.
And LLMs kind of reward the iterative process of dialing in the “thingness” of their generations. Reworking it slowly until you hit the button hard and precisely.
So, I don’t think it’s odd. But for me more often than not things I generate are a part of a process. I use it because I need to figure out the composition for a panel or a room (as much as I am able to trust the LLM’s concepts of physical continuity and perspective), or something for work as a layout or proposal, or I need a mockup to give to an artist as a ‘do it like this but in your style/hand’ thing.
But I have also generated things just because I was needing to cope, and holy cow you can end up with a thousand “I did this to cope” by the time you’re done, each one of which was a dopamine punch, almost all of which afterwards are hard to look at or even understand what was going on that I asked for it and then bothered to save it.
So - congratulations! You are generating things that give you that high. That’s a good thing. As my art professor used to say; “Make a hundred more.”

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General Discussion » Getting off to your own works. » Post 4

It’s up to you if it feels odd or not. I cannot decide that for you. If it doesn’t feel odd to you, then I advice you that you probably shouldn’t be bothered by others saying that it is odd.

General Discussion » NSFW - memorable generation errors? » Post 10

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