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https://tantabus.ai/tags/8-dash-bit+%28g4%29 should be a character tag, might also imply “idw” since they’re from the IDW comics.

@Lord Waite
So the contest is based on the output quantity, not the quality or popularity? (Daily theme contests on NightCafe are based on popular vote, with only one submission per person)

@Teaspoon
Probably worth noting that civitai is running daily contests right now that give you 400 of their on-site currency, buzz, if you submit 20 images using the lora provided. It’s very much encouraging people to spam out 20 low quality images a day.

I don’t know if you have, but I’d suggest perusing civitAI; there are accounts with 12k images made in just a few months, practically 90% of their images are definitely horrible. I’d certainly not think anyone slapping in 12 words (optimistically) into the prompt box, not changing default settings, and hitting “Generate Forever” to churn out 250 images in an hour and do no editing or curation at all on them deserves to be called an artist.

Purely outside of the pedantry of what is and isn’t “art”, it’d be an organizational nightmare to separate out the people that do put some work and effort into their creations.

@Delly
also, on this site, the term artist has a specific meaning under rule #1: it’s for people who make original works that are copyright-protected. calling prompters “artists” could make things confusing and mess with how that rule applies.

@IWTCIPP
And it seems that the majority agrees with the site’s current decision by not using the artist tag

Comparing traditional artistry with prompting is offending everyone, who has spend countless years mastering the art of drawing.

The two are nowhere near on the same level, or at least the kind of prompting that this site is intended for isn’t (As actual art with only some smaller parts being done by AI is still welcome on Derpibooru)

Therefore, the prefix will not be changing. Learn to actually draw if you want to be an artist.

Since “ai composition” is a thing now, tags like “generator:zoinksnoob” should not imply “ai generated” IMO.

BTW: I feel like this “generator” term is pretty vague, I would prefer something like “model” or “checkpoint” instead.

I agree, creating art makes you an artist, and the act of guiding an AI to refine an image into something that matches your vision is the same creative process to any other artform.

Just because it’s “easy” to prompt things by comparison to the tedium of drawn digital art does not mean you’re not an artist, and saying otherwise is just a narrative the anti-AI crowd has spun to diminish people’s work and disrespect the AI artists. It’d be like saying digital artists aren’t artists because it’s a far easier process than that of traditional artwork on canvas with oil paints (no undo, no layering, no fancy effects or infinite brush shapes). This is especially true for more involved AI artwork where inpainting and other touchups are done in post via Photoshop or whatever, it’s hardly solely just “prompting” in that instance.

Course I can somewhat understand concerns over tagging confusion and etc, and to be fair also other areas of art have their own terms, e.g. photographer, cinematographer, game developer, but they all are under the “artist” umbrella if you want a general term. No (non-disparaging) specific term really exists for those who leverage AI heavily yet given it’s such a new medium other than like “AI artist” which specifies the medium a bit more specifically similar to “traditional artist” or “digital artist”, but these are just simplified just to “artist” in terms of tagging on Derpi at least.

“Creator” may be a fair compromise but I still feel like it’s a bit silly to downplay the artistry involved. As the OP said, this is an AI-specific site, so while a blind import of tags may be a bit confusing, in practice one would understand that the “artist” term on this site is contextually referring to AI artists specifically and transform the tags if needed to whatever convention exists on other sites (e.g. if importing from here to Derpi one would replace artist: with prompter: and add ai content or whatever as in theory that tag wouldn’t be needed here).

All that considered I think I still lean more towards “artist” than “creator”, but either is better than “prompter” which might as well be an insult in a place like this.

@Zerowinger
@Bendy and Boney
Both done.

https://tantabus.ai/tags/starsong should be a character tag.

Should be a character tag, and should imply “tempest shadow.”

Nah. Artistry =\= prompting. Both creating art traditionally and by prompting are creative processes, but they’re different processes.

@Bendy and Boney
Thanks.
Done.

Okay. I’ll do that from now on.
In fact, I just remembered another tag with issues.
https://tantabus.ai/tags/copper+top
It should be a character tag.

@Bendy and Boney
Please link tags in the future to make it easier.
Done.

closed eyes should be an alias for eyes closed.

I’d tend more towards “creator” myself, as well, if we were going to change it from “prompter”. I’d prefer to keep the two distinct, because, for example, if I drew a picture of a pony, then generated the background behind them by ai, I would both be the artist and the creator. And if it was a collaboration, where someone else drew the character, I could tag them as the artist and myself as the creator.

I’d also suggest, since this is an ai site, that at least one of the ai tags be required when uploading, the same way that you are required to rate the picture as safe, questionable, or explicit.

I prefer “creator”.

fuck no

Hard “no”. This would just pollute the tag for images that are on both boorus. Artists are for the people who make it by hand. I’ve burned away hours prompting and it’s just an iteration factory, not like an artist.

@LightningBolt
Agreed. Those seem very much like “I wanted to upvote this twice” or “I wanted to explain my enthusiasm for this image with more than a click could convey”. Useful for those who use them, but no one can agree what they mean or which images should have them.

You know, I’m something of an artist myself, but I think “prompter” is more appropriate here.

“derpibooru exclusive” should be aliased to “tantabus exclusive”.

@Zerowinger
Yes we are aware, they’re not exactly high priority and incredibly hard to find them all due to the wildly varying names, it’s not really worth the time to seek them all out when we barely know what they all mean. Feel free to share the ones you find, but we will not likely be seeking them out en masse.