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Tagging Discussion » "Generator:" tags should not imply "ai generated" » Topic Opener

tyto4tme4l

Something of an artist
Since “ai composition” is a thing now, tags like “generator:zoinksnoob” should not imply “ai generated” IMO.
BTW: I feel like this “generator” term is pretty vague, I would prefer something like “model” or “checkpoint” instead.

Tagging Discussion » "prompter:" should change to "artist:" » Post 9

I agree, creating art makes you an artist, and the act of guiding an AI to refine an image into something that matches your vision is the same creative process to any other artform.
Just because it’s “easy” to prompt things by comparison to the tedium of drawn digital art does not mean you’re not an artist, and saying otherwise is just a narrative the anti-AI crowd has spun to diminish people’s work and disrespect the AI artists. It’d be like saying digital artists aren’t artists because it’s a far easier process than that of traditional artwork on canvas with oil paints (no undo, no layering, no fancy effects or infinite brush shapes). This is especially true for more involved AI artwork where inpainting and other touchups are done in post via Photoshop or whatever, it’s hardly solely just “prompting” in that instance.
Course I can somewhat understand concerns over tagging confusion and etc, and to be fair also other areas of art have their own terms, e.g. photographer, cinematographer, game developer, but they all are under the “artist” umbrella if you want a general term. No (non-disparaging) specific term really exists for those who leverage AI heavily yet given it’s such a new medium other than like “AI artist” which specifies the medium a bit more specifically similar to “traditional artist” or “digital artist”, but these are just simplified just to “artist” in terms of tagging on Derpi at least.
“Creator” may be a fair compromise but I still feel like it’s a bit silly to downplay the artistry involved. As the OP said, this is an AI-specific site, so while a blind import of tags may be a bit confusing, in practice one would understand that the “artist” term on this site is contextually referring to AI artists specifically and transform the tags if needed to whatever convention exists on other sites (e.g. if importing from here to Derpi one would replace artist: with prompter: and add ai content or whatever as in theory that tag wouldn’t be needed here).
All that considered I think I still lean more towards “artist” than “creator”, but either is better than “prompter” which might as well be an insult in a place like this.

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Tagging Discussion » "prompter:" should change to "artist:" » Post 8

Nah. Artistry =\= prompting. Both creating art traditionally and by prompting are creative processes, but they’re different processes.

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Tagging Discussion » "prompter:" should change to "artist:" » Post 7

I’d tend more towards “creator” myself, as well, if we were going to change it from “prompter”. I’d prefer to keep the two distinct, because, for example, if I drew a picture of a pony, then generated the background behind them by ai, I would both be the artist and the creator. And if it was a collaboration, where someone else drew the character, I could tag them as the artist and myself as the creator.
I’d also suggest, since this is an ai site, that at least one of the ai tags be required when uploading, the same way that you are required to rate the picture as safe, questionable, or explicit.

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Background Pony #36E1
Hard “no”. This would just pollute the tag for images that are on both boorus. Artists are for the people who make it by hand. I’ve burned away hours prompting and it’s just an iteration factory, not like an artist.

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Nocturn

Moderator
Adjutant
@LightningBolt
Agreed. Those seem very much like “I wanted to upvote this twice” or “I wanted to explain my enthusiasm for this image with more than a click could convey”. Useful for those who use them, but no one can agree what they mean or which images should have them.

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LightningBolt

Administrator
ADHD fueled
@Zerowinger
Yes we are aware, they’re not exactly high priority and incredibly hard to find them all due to the wildly varying names, it’s not really worth the time to seek them all out when we barely know what they all mean. Feel free to share the ones you find, but we will not likely be seeking them out en masse.

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Zerowinger

3-3/4" Army Man Fan
@LightningBolt
Speaking of so many….
it seems that all the “-betes” or other character specific tags that implied “cute” aren’t implying either the character or “cute.” Just a heads up.

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CappyAdams

Proud SwarmUI addict
@IWTCIPP
Not trying to start drama or anything, but prompters aren’t the same as actual artists.
a prompter calling themselves an artist when all they really do is type prompts is quite disrespectful to human artists.
but that’s just my opinion

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Zerowinger

3-3/4" Army Man Fan
I disagree. Besides the fact that it would be odd and confusing (especially when Derpi will be keeping the prompter tag), I don’t consider myself an artist. I’m just a guy playing around with a program for fun.

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