General Tag Discussion

For all tagging related discussions and questions that don’t need a specific thread.

It strikes me that “derpibooru exclusive” is a tag that likely needs changing. Change them all to “tantabus exclusive”, perhaps?

Will subsequent tag changes made on Derpibooru get synced to the posts that had already been imported? Goodness knows I spend enough time cleaning things up and tagging the oft-forgotten basics, I’d hate to have to do it twice.

How is shipping tags decided upon? E.g. Fluttershy x Sweetie Belle, is tagged as “Flutterbelle”. Why not “Sweetieshy”?
(Flutterbelle sounds good, and I like it.. just wanted to know the reasoning)

Honestly, it’s mostly just popularity and history at this point. Most ships have long-established ship names used across almost all fandom sites.

Could we maybe get some tags like resource in description, lora in description, model in description etc?
Those tags might be colored different than green?.., so I’m hesitant to adding them all willy nilly.

Edit:
There’s so many tags for messed up cutie mark, and I’m never really sure what tag to use when I see images without a tag for it at all, and the mark is all messed up.

alternate cutie mark and wrong cutie mark are the main ones.

ai doesn’t like cutie marks, altered cutie mark, cutie mark error, inaccurate cutie mark only have 1 image tagged as such.

If all these are supposed to be kept and used for cutie mark generation errors, it’d be helpful to know what tag to use when.
I’m assuming it will be inevitable that AI gets trained on AI.
Garbage in, garbage out. So it probably behooves us to tag cutie mark errors in a more uniform way.

Maybe have it as a requirement to tag e.g. one of the above or tag it with e.g. correct cutiemark? (or blank flank, for intended blank flanks)? Just like using a rating tag is required (I presume, haven’t uploaded anything yet)

I think there should be a tag for models. Aside from tags for sites or which AI engine is used (like stable diffusion, midjourney, dalle), some pictures are reliant on specific models. I’ve generated a fair amount of content in Pony diffusion and NoobAI, for instance.

@Thoryn
Just my own two cents, but wrong cutie mark and bad cutie mark are the only two tags that should matter there. Wrong cutie mark would be anything where a pony has a mark that isn’t theirs, and bad cutie mark would be a cutie mark that’s just straight up scuffed/poor quality.

I feel like there’s an obsessive need to over-categorize every single possible kind of AI error from some users, and I do believe this will strangle the site. This community is not large or established enough to survive fracturing a userbase.
Forcing people to tag such things will just result in people not using it.

I feel like alternative cutie mark sounds less harsh and more “official” so to say, while it may be an error this feels like a good middle-ground between mistakes and genuine attempts to make a different cutie mark. Technically wrong cutie mark also falls into a category of being “alternative” just not in a way it’s usually expressed.

So one thing I’ve always wished I could filter by, but there’s no tag for it is crotchboobless for images where you can clearly see the crotch on a feral pony and there’s no boobs. I don’t care if there’s human vulva on pony which is where 80% of these kinds of images come from just as long as the boobs are present in the correct place.

So I was wondering what’s the policy for new tags and would it be alright if I started tagging things as crotchboobless or something more politically correct?

I feel like on a politically correct side it would be to start tagging them all as anatomically incorrect but also looking at the content of that tag… I feel like it would be too harsh even if technically true, since I feel like the anatomically incorrect tag is a good general filter tag to avoid truly messed up anatomy, where as really crotchbooblessness is just kind of its own unique fetish.

@CCDrop
Generally, tagging an absence of something isn’t needed because you can search with negation. Searching for -crotchboobs would search for anything without crotchboobs. Exceptions are made, but they are just that: exceptions.

I don’t want things with just crotchboobs though that misses the point. Since any position where you can’t naturally see them it’s not an issue. Since it’s not the absence of crotchboobs that’s the issue per se it’s the absence of them when they should be there. Since really a proper tag for this would probably be mastectomy since that’s why it’s so off putting is it’s like looking a castration or penectomy image since there’s a natural structure that should be there that’s not.

So for example I wouldn’t want to have to search balls just because I don’t want to see castration I just don’t want to see castration so I hide castration and that’s what I want here. I don’t care if I see crotchboobs I just don’t want to see mastectomy or whatever tag makes the most sense to start using.

Please do not use that tag for characters that are, technically speaking, “on book” for the show. I think it’s wrong to have one group tagging things as anatomically incorrect if they don’t match IRL horses, and another tagging things as anatomically incorrect if they look like they do in the show. Makes the tag utterly useless because it’s meaning becomes simply “Me No Like This!”

@CCDrop
Can you please provide an example of an image that you want to find, but that does not have crotchboobs, so I can see what is preventing -crotchboobs from doing what you want?

@Nocturn
Yeah that was my thoughts too, anatomically incorrect just doesn’t feel right—especially in the context of AI artwork where it takes on an whole different meaning. XD

Examples of why simply looking for images that have crotchboobs don’t work:

If I’m looking for Twilight Sparkle I want to be able to find: [things where you can’t see crotchboobs but you can either safely assume they exist OR they don’t need to be there because we’re talking about human twilight or gender swapped twilight.]
https://tantabus.ai/images/44763?q=my%3Afaves%2C+twilight+sparkle
https://tantabus.ai/images/45211?q=my%3Afaves%2C+twilight+sparkle
https://tantabus.ai/images/45651?q=my%3Afaves%2C+twilight+sparkle
https://tantabus.ai/images/44091?q=my%3Afaves%2C+twilight+sparkle
https://tantabus.ai/images/38068?q=my%3Afaves%2C+twilight+sparkle
https://tantabus.ai/images/38272?q=my%3Afaves%2C+twilight+sparkle

And even things like this: [showlistic plot where there are no sexualizaion/sexual organs on display anyway, you can safely just put this under the mental category of all equipment is there just censored.]
https://tantabus.ai/images/51731?q=twilight+sparkle%2C+safe
https://tantabus.ai/images/41719?q=twilight+sparkle%2C+safe%2C+plot
https://tantabus.ai/images/22202?q=twilight+sparkle%2C+safe%2C+plot

What I want to filter out are images like these: [images clearly depicting mastectomy]
https://tantabus.ai/images/51534?q=twilight+sparkle%2C+explicit
https://tantabus.ai/images/50712?q=twilight+sparkle%2C+explicit